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Hot Takes: bRUNch Must or Bust, Trends, Controversies, and Personal Stories
Ever wondered about the perfect race start time? How about carbon-plated running shoes? Maybe, you wondered about meal-delivery services.
Get ready to immerse yourself into the world of fitness trends and equipment as we scrutinize the latest fads like cold plunging and waist trainers.
We also dive deep into the contentious topic of bib transfers in races, raising arguments from both sides, weighing potential implications and consequences.
Hear our candid thoughts on couch-to-marathon training plans and why having a purpose for your race enrollment matters.
Or our feelings on Fastest Known Time records FKTs - Coach Christine is a bit concerned that folks could take this reel from Laura Green to heart in their pursuit of reigning supreme.
Listen as we share our personal marathon stories and why we believe having a reason for race sign-ups is crucial.
As we navigate through this episode, you'll learn about the interesting use of weighted vests and racing buns, the effects of caffeinated gels, and the unconventional idea of olive oil coffee.
We talk about the pros, cons, and how these trends can impact your training. Plus, we’re uncovering what world records mean for elite athletes and how they're shaping the future of sports. Lastly, we share our spicy recipes of the week and remind you to tune into Quick Bytes, our mid-week 20-30 minute podcast drop.
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Hey friends, coach Shelby and Coach Christine welcoming you in and letting you know it's time for brunch. We're here. At brunch, there's always an open table, a hot cup of coffee and endless running fun to keep you moving and grooving. This week we might not have a workout for you, but it's gonna be spicy, it's gonna be hot and I hope that we still love each other at the end of this, because we are doing Hot Takes, brunch Edition, and while some of the items we talk about are definitely gonna be brunch musts, there are gonna be others that are brunch busts and, even though those rankings are up for interpretation, we're gonna vote and give our hot takes on what we think are musts and musts. Will we agree? Probably not Again. Will we still love each other at this episode of Ayres Damn? I hope so. What do you think Are we? We are very similar, but we're also very different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we are, we have. I think we have found that maybe our core values are similar and yet everything else is really different. I don't know, but I'm excited. I'm super, duper, duper stoked to get this going because I feel like, if nothing else, we're gonna have some really good conversation.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm really looking forward to. If you have the newsletter this week, you should have seen the graphic to let us know your own brunch musts and brunch busts. I feel like this is gonna be team sweet and savory all over again.
Speaker 2:Without a doubt, that's exactly what comes to mind, but I think that we might have a more diverse group of folks, kind of not like. I don't think everybody's gonna agree 100% with either one of us, because, yeah, we're a little quirky ourselves, so let's get right into it. What's? What do you feel like one of the conversations that might be one of your brunch musts?
Speaker 1:Oh, a brunch must for me is probably going to be early race start times, which I already know. With this, I know I'm digging deep right off the bat. I was just having a conversation.
Speaker 1:I was just having a conversation with an athlete over this weekend and I would rather have earlier race start times, so I don't like get heat stroke or something, because it's just too darn hot and this goes for any time of the year. When I did my marathon in December, I wish it would have started a full hour earlier. And she's shaking her head at me, folks.
Speaker 2:I've got.
Speaker 1:SAS coming through this mic right now.
Speaker 2:No, I don't like to do my morning runs early. I don't like to do my race days early. I okay. So my perfect ideal Goldilocks like this is wonderful. I like seven AM start times. I feel like it allows me to get up rather naturally, have fuel, have breakfast, have coffee, use the restroom, all of the things, so that I can get to that start line and not feel like I had to get up at three o'clock in the morning. Yes, I'm looking at you run Disney where I actually have to get up at like 1 30 in the morning. I just I don't like any aspect of early race times. I think there's too much that happens on race day for that to happen.
Speaker 1:When you started with the this is my perfect scenario. I thought of Cheryl Frazier from Rhode Island of miscongeniality, the movie a Sandra Bullock like just please describe your perfect date.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's exactly what it is Like. I don't know why you would want to make it earlier and yes, I know it gets hot here in Florida.
Speaker 1:but I'm a wimp. I want it early, I want it now, I want it with a house and a mouse all of the Dr Seuss rhymes.
Speaker 2:So definitely that is out of the gate. 100% of bust for me. Like there's no reason to start early.
Speaker 1:All right, well, I'm taking that as a brunch must.
Speaker 2:I am curious, though, and I want folks to let me know Do you think that it may be because you're a mom so you want to get up early, get your race early and get back home?
Speaker 1:and get away from my family. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:I just I wonder if that's part of it, because, again, I run with a lot of moms and they love getting up, but like going out for their runs like 4, 30 in the morning, five o'clock in the morning, I'm like what's wrong with y'all.
Speaker 1:Oh no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let's, let's roll this back. I don't want to do my daily runs that freaking early, I just want to do my races that early, big difference.
Speaker 2:Now, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Speaker 1:Explain Because I don't like on a normal day, I don't want to wake up early. I don't choose to wake up early. My child's usually hitting me in the face and making me wake up early to where? When it's a race, like it's a, it's a focused goal, it's a one time, it's like a one day, I have to wake up early.
Speaker 2:It's the one day I don't want to wake up early. I mean, well, like, actually I don't want to wake up early, I need specific day. And I think the folks think that when I say I don't want to wake up early, that means like I'm sleeping until like 11. I'm still up early. I don't want to be out in the world having to human at that early time and figuring things out. And again, I really like using the restroom before I go. And if you're up that early, like my body can't even process. Like am I really supposed to eat at three o'clock in the morning? Cause, like I, I just can't figure out how people make that happen.
Speaker 1:You can't think about coffee and everything just goes with the flow, If you know what I mean it doesn't seem to happen for me.
Speaker 2:But okay, so we're right out of the gate. We're definitely not seeing eye to eye on that one, Um for us it must for you. Oh gosh, I, I guess I love, love, love, love, love food delivery services. I mean, I can't tell you how much I love food delivery services. And now I need to like figure it out, like cause I want to explain I don't love meal kits, because I don't necessarily, not that I don't, I don't hate them, but I don't love meal kits necessarily as much.
Speaker 1:You're trying not to like hurt any of the food delivery box meal kits. Feelings.
Speaker 2:I think there's. I think there's. Some of them are okay, but I don't necessarily love meal kits. I don't want you to give me a recipe, but I do when things are crazy busy. I love like the food delivery where it's already pre-made I can pop it in the microwave and then move about my day. I don't use them as much anymore. Used it more back in the corporate world when I was working 10 or 12 or 15 hour days. Um, super convenient. I do recommend them for folks that are having difficulty with getting in that delicious and nutritious food and don't want to go through fast food all the time. Nothing that's wrong with fast food, but just they want an alternative. I do also love getting things delivered for the record, because I have my meat delivered.
Speaker 1:That sounds really bad, Christine. That is not a. That's a. Not safe for work. Brunch edition.
Speaker 2:I girl, oh my word, it is a brunch must to have things conveniently delivered to me and all shapes, forms and fashions I love like CSAs, community supported agriculture and having that box delivered. I love boxes.
Speaker 1:So this is a brunch bust for me.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't get you, I still don't get it. Like seriously, don't understand.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't well, first of all, I'm really weird with food and Jeff means shocker. I have an idiosyncrasy, but seriously, I don't like. I don't really like food being done for me because I don't really like picking meals ahead of time, Like again we've established. I'm more of a fly by the seat of your pants type of gal and I don't want to be told how to live my life when it comes to my food. Like, if I don't want like a tofu stroganoff on a Thursday, I'm not going to eat the tofu stroganoff. If I want pizza, or if I want like chow mein or, or I don't know. I'm really trying to figure out. Apparently I'm hungry and I went like 15 different directions, but these are one of the irrational things that gets me fired up. I don't want to be told what I'm supposed to eat. Don't shake your head at me.
Speaker 2:Why are you shaking your head? For me because, like literally yesterday, I was just finishing up my meal prep and so I meal prep at my house and I also meal prep for my dad, and for me it's like, oh my God, this is so convenient because it takes a couple hours to have all these like things done, and then for the rest of the week I am able to not think about it. It's yet another decision I don't have to really like focus on. I know I could just run into the refrigerator, grab the specific thing, either reheat it in some way or just be done. Now I know again this goes to show like I love, like before I do my groceries, meal planning and then having that meal prep and all that jazz. So I think maybe that's another reason why food delivery services are a big plus for me, because I know exactly what's coming, what I need to order and how to best create. Just shows around that. And I think you approach it more like an artist. You're a bit more creative.
Speaker 1:Well, it's like even even while I was putting together the bougie meals on a budget workshop. I do plan light, Like I have components and I have ideas of how I can use those components. But I don't pigeonhole myself. But I also appreciate the fact. Like you don't like going to grocery stores, you don't you get your groceries delivered. I like picking out my bananas, I like feeling the ripeness of the apples before I put them and commit my life to them in a plastic bag. I know, not eco-friendly, but still I just. Maybe this is the stranger danger part of me. It could be.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's why Maybe because you'll just take it from like somebody random on the street like hey, I have candy, you're like cool things. I think there is part of that. I do wonder if there's a little bit of that. I also do think maybe, yeah, I don't know, but for me it's totally 100% An absolute brunch must. Like I love having deli meats already Like I order those online. I order my food online. I have those delivery services online. Wait are?
Speaker 1:you one of those people that gets it sliced and well, you don't go to the grocery store, never mind. Like picks it up from the counter like anybody can touch.
Speaker 2:Yes, they put it in that little area. If I was to go pick it up in the spot oh my God, I'm never eating your house again. But it's okay, girlfriend, it's okay. I mean, you'd realize it's the same deli person that's cutting it for you when you get it there, when you're in person.
Speaker 1:I've seen a girl go up to the hot case and like breathe on all the food that's exposed. No, okay, sorry, we're gonna have to switch gears. You're just freaking me out.
Speaker 2:You can't go out to eat at all. You just need to stay at home and cook for yourself the rest of your life. Because you do realize that like there's people in the kitchen that are making those foods, it's not like it's not Remy from Ratatouille back there who's like it's putting like some magic sparkles to create your dish Like it's literally human.
Speaker 1:It's more sanitary. Look, remy washed his hands before he started cooking. He was a very detail oriented rat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was he was Okay, I do wanna talk. So we're at this point already like two for two where we disagree, right. I'm curious how many we will possibly agree on, and I guarantee this one's not gonna be it. Girl, I hate ice baths. I cannot tell you how much I don't understand. There's like a really weird trend right now where people are doing these like cold. They're called cold plunging and I'm like why? Why would you want to be?
Speaker 1:like the polar plungy things. Yeah, I've never okay, I've never done the polar plungy thing. I know that's not what it's actually called. It's polar plunge. I don't actively do ice baths, but I don't say this as being a bust, it's so for recovery.
Speaker 2:I do understand there is some value to it from a recovery standpoint in terms of help with inflammation. I get the value of it. I just don't personally like it at all. I don't want to feel cold, I don't want to feel uncomfortable. It is definitely like if I'm working with you as an athlete and you wanna do a nice bath, you go for it, my friend, but am I ever gonna do it? Heck to the know. I did it once, literally once, and I was like I'm never doing this again.
Speaker 1:Oh, you said the word never. That's like $10 in the swear jar.
Speaker 2:Like I'm gonna have to go to the Antarctica and like, fall into the ice for me to do an ice bath ever again.
Speaker 1:Like it's just.
Speaker 2:The Antarctica, the Antarctica, I think. Yeah, I think I was gonna say the North Pole and then decided the Antarctica might be colder. I don't know if that's true or not, though.
Speaker 1:Oh well, about 10 years things took a little bit warming. It's not gonna matter. I know, I just switched dark.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say the exact same thing. Okay, anyway. So we do agree on climate change, Just not anything else. Okay, so now we're three for three where we don't necessarily agree. We have to agree on something, coach. What else is there to do our hot take.
Speaker 1:Ooh, I saw this on Instagram the other day. It was an ad which, again, our algorithm does not know what to make of us, because it's just throwing darts at this point saying what are these ladies like Waste trainers?
Speaker 2:Okay, I have to tell you I absolutely do not like waste trainers. It is a bunch of bust for me. Now, same I have used them Same. Oh, I have never used them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have used them.
Speaker 2:Back in the day when I did marketing for a female bodybuilding, they were really big into hocking them.
Speaker 2:They were really big into talking about how it helps to create what's more of an hourglass figure which is prized on stage, and it was something I was considering doing at that time was maybe trying for a fitness competition. So I did use them but I got the worst rash I've ever gotten ever because I had some kind of a word allergy to it, because we're living in Florida and nobody should be wearing a waste trainer because they're hot, seriously, and I think I my doctor won't tell me if they think that this is possible but I got an appendicitis and I ended up having to have an appendectomy and it was like two months after I had quit using the waste trainer and I'm pretty positive that he said that he saw that I had like a perforation in my appendix and I have to think it was because I was squeezing my internal organs. So, folks, please, please, please, please, don't use the waste trainers. They're really not good for you. Really they're not.
Speaker 1:And well, especially like I've seen people talk about using them while running. It gets based like a corset, and so your range of breathing is cut, really restricted.
Speaker 2:It is super duper restricted.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're just asking to pass out. And now there are and I'm not sure like the technical but there are waste trainer things for, like weightlifting that are support belts totally different.
Speaker 2:Completely different the weightlifting belt would usually be, and those are even controversial in the weightlifting world as to whether or not they're great, because in a lot of ways, if you don't already have a preexisting back issue, what it does is that it kind of minimizes you engaging your core and again it depends there's a buzzling in different things to it. I know that one's controversial. It's definitely a whole nother conversation, but I think all in all, no, I do love me some. What is it called like support garments for? Like, I'm not into skims, but maybe spanks. I love them, spanks.
Speaker 1:I think, I think waist trainers, and I do think of the Kardashians, which skims is part of the Kardashian and Pyrr, but they don't use waist trainers, do they? They did, they touted them. I don't know how many years ago, I'm not even gonna try to guess, but they did like do them back in the day when they were working out. But I'm not even. It looks like they do. They do sell them.
Speaker 1:I'm not even a big fan of like necessarily like control top or like the span Dexy undergarments as much. I would rather do high waisted without the compression unless I'm on my period, not to bring in the period talk, but the compression when you're on your period. We didn't cover that in the period series. We should have.
Speaker 2:But you're right it does. It does feel better because it has. Yes, it kind of helps with cramping, for sure.
Speaker 1:And it's more like appropriate than having somebody just like push on your stomach or like give you a big bear hug 24 seven, Even though I mean we can make it happen as.
Speaker 2:I say, if somebody wants to give me a bear hug, I'd be okay with that. Physical touch is my love language, so I'm okay with that. But yeah, waist trainers though I'm not okay with you could find a different way of hugging yourself without having to like literally become breathless. So I'm excited we agree on one.
Speaker 1:We've got one folk. Yay. I like how we're so proud of ourselves like that on the back. What about what's another good one? Carbon plated shoes.
Speaker 2:So I'm fascinated by this conversation, for sure. I don't know that I feel, and I know you're gonna make me, but I don't know that I care either way. Like if you are you saying now, like specifically, for, like the elites were for the average person wearing them?
Speaker 1:Oh Okay, I was not prepared for a follow-up question. Let's go for the everyday runner. I.
Speaker 2:Mean the everyday runner. There is, it seems to be, a value in utilizing it for race days. Yes, there does seem to be some Great returns I won't say great, but some returns on being a little speedier. However, it's not necessarily you could train with every single training run. I would rather see folks just to utilize the shoes that make them feel comfortable and supported Personally, but if that's something that somebody enjoys, I'm okay with it. As far as the controversy as to whether or not it should be I mean I think that's been there, done that at this point whether it should be allowed. We're already seeing the leads are using them, so I think it's here to stay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just I mean again, I'm kind of with you, like, if you'll want to use them, great. I think they're kind of over hyped for the everyday runner.
Speaker 2:They're expensive.
Speaker 1:They are expensive. I had been fortunate to receive a pair at no cost of time ago and I mean I didn't really Love them. I Didn't really see any great benefits. It just it didn't. It didn't float my boat. I yeah, it's a lot of money for a shoe that you just race in. I mean, I get the science behind it, but it's kind of a bust for me.
Speaker 2:Okay well, I know and I climactic. It's kind of like Okay, so what's not really a hundred percent of us, not really a hundred percent of musts? Is there another thing that we could say? It was it's like lukewarm kind of a thing. It feels like it's kind of a lust.
Speaker 1:People lust after them, but I don't know, it's kind of like that once you got it.
Speaker 2:I think what it comes down to it is that it can't. It's not going to make you Kupchogi if and it's not going to know and it's not gonna necessarily really Like you could make the same I won't say the same exact gains, but probably it's not a substitute for actually like speed work and strength training and all of that jazz that comes along with training. So I feel like, yeah, for the cost, I'd rather just get shoes that I feel best supported in. But I'm curious if folks that are listening to us have them, maybe even running in them, and they absolutely love them and feel like we're crazy and they're absolutely a must. Let us know if that's the case.
Speaker 1:Why do I feel like we need the Jerry? Bring the Jerry Springer audio in the background. Fight, fight.
Speaker 2:We're gonna fight about that one, but we may. We may have a healthy debate on this next one, which is something that I actually love, which is selling and transferring your race bib Only if it's legally allowed by the race director, and I love all. I'm gonna give a huge shout out to all the race directors that are now allowing that as an opportunity for folks, because I think that it helps to Negate the amount of runners that are going out on race day and racing injured Because they paid a lot of money or they don't like they could get into that race again. So it'll go out there and do it, even though they maybe didn't properly train or they're injured. So I love the ability that race directors are giving some folks to sell or transfer their race bib.
Speaker 1:Okay, now I have follow-up questions. Okay, why, why are you just a you fan? Just because of like that aspect?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that really is the biggest reason. I don't want people I can't tell you how many folks I know that would go out and do a race that were again, they were either 100% untrained for or they were 100% Injured for and were advised with their doctor to not go out and do it. All of that jazz. There was definitely a lot to it and they still felt like I spent I don't know. Insert whatever Dollars here 200 to 50 on this race. I can't do anything, I can't transfer it, I'll never be able to get back into this race, whatever the case may be, and I think that it sets folks up for For potentially hurting themselves more.
Speaker 2:Now I get why race directors don't let you just do it like Willy-nilly. It needs to be something that's absolutely legally allowed by the race director from a safety perspective. If it's not legally allowed, it's because the race director doesn't have the admin support to be able to make all of those little details happen behind the scenes. From a safety Perspective, they need to know who's racing is the person who's actually has the bib. So I get that. But yeah, I think that if we could legally allow that happening more, it would make me happy.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm about to make you very unhappy because, for me, think this is a bust.
Speaker 2:I'm not for it. I can't even comprehend why you wouldn't be for it. Explain to me.
Speaker 1:Okay, I Feel like we need to.
Speaker 2:How dare you like, I just I honestly cannot. I Can't comprehend in any way, shape or fashion. If it's legally allowed, if the race director is able to change over all of the Information so they know who's out there. They know that. You know, if I gave you my bib, you, I legally transferred it to you. They were able to go in there say Shelby Schmidt's gonna be towing up and with number of three, four, two for the race, bib versus Christine, that's what they have, your safety contact information. Why? Why would that be an issue?
Speaker 1:Like you're like, please tell me why you're wrong. Yeah, I came across. Yeah, that's exactly how it came across. No, okay, so here's my thing. I don't necessarily edit for have an issue. Okay with transferring bibs or selling bibs. My issue is and correct me if I'm wrong they're not actually handling the logistics of like payment and all that. So you could have a race bib to erase. I really want to do that, cost you $200 and you could be like Shelby, I'm gonna help you out. I'm gonna give it to you for the low, low price of $500, and the race directors, the races, have no say in that. All they're handling is actual Physical changing of the bibs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it depends. There's some race directors that require the individual to Pay the registration fee directly with them and a transfer fee. Then there's others that don't worry. Like you said, sometimes they'll have. They usually do have a transfer fee again because of admin and having to go in there and Put time behind making those changes, and they let you figure out. If you're giving it, selling it whatever, they don't care. I think if I, what comes to my Marine Corps lets you figure that portion out. They just care about having the admin fee paid. That's all that they need to worry about on their side.
Speaker 1:And I feel like that's where my get stuck, because I feel like if that was allowed, what's to stop somebody from turning that into a for-profit versus just doing it because they can't make it or they're injured? I would like to see that effort probably be put forth into a better defer policy.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm then selling and transferring, because it's even like, okay, take run dizzy, for example, we were able to help out our athletes and get into the queue and make sure all that was secured. So what would stop me from saying, well, I can put out X amount of dollars and get all these bibs and then I'm gonna turn around and sell them? We see that with merch from run Disney, and that was the whole reason the virtual queue was created.
Speaker 1:So I feel, like the same principle could be done by not so stellar people Trying to make a profit off of it.
Speaker 2:We're gonna this one's gonna be a hot, healthy to be a call, because run Disney is illegal to do that. So you would actually so both I as the purchaser of it and you as the Transferee of it would lose our place to ever run with run Disney again which I'm a rule follower.
Speaker 1:You're a rule follower, so we wouldn't do it, but still.
Speaker 2:I know somebody who changed their race bib to get into a starting corral. It was a bit like I know girl, I was so nervous for that individual I'm like. First of all, why would you do this?
Speaker 1:because I hope they're not listening, cuz you're about, you know I hope you are listening.
Speaker 2:Why would you do this? Do you know that you could be banned forever? Like I, don't want to ever be banned from any race in have you seen mouse jail?
Speaker 1:It is not fun. They do not have Mickey shaped food or the plastic cheese there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would not. I just wouldn't. Girl, I can't tell you how many times I go to Disney and I'm like whatever happens today, I have to make sure that everybody behaves on their best, is on their best behavior, because I cannot lose my annual past.
Speaker 1:My mom not at Disney, but my mom actually almost got arrested at one of the theme parks because she was on a school trip and they had extra tickets and she was just trying to like resell them for the face value, just so they could recoup Right, and she didn't realize that was kind of like a scalping and she almost got arrested. For yeah, see.
Speaker 2:I'd like. So I think that if it's illegal I totally get it. But okay, so let's just let's pretend that run Disney does legally allow it, right? Um, and in that scenario you're saying it could be something where it becomes really hot, where like Basically, the queue gets congested because there's a bunch of folks going in, kind of like what we see with concerts. They go in and they, they buy them and then they go and sell them.
Speaker 1:I guess it'd be Taylor Swift all over again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I, I could see where that would be an issue. I don't see. I Guess I don't worry about that when it comes to the running community quite as much. To be honest, I feel like the running community would not allow that to happen. I don't know why. I feel like it's like the last pure place in the world where people usually have good intentions.
Speaker 1:But I also think that flashback to like all the news clippings of all the horrendous things that happen at like the big race.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna pretend those things don't happen and usually they're amazing. So I think I I could see where it's a concern. I don't see that it's that realistic of a concern yet and maybe that's maybe still illegal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right. Well, this I have a feeling this was one that we are both gonna feel like we're we're digging our heels in. This is a bust for me and a must for you. All right, we're gonna leave it to you guys. Is this a must or is this a bust? Pick your favorite child. You know, love more.
Speaker 2:I feel like we should revisit these like in ten years and see how we feel about them and wonder how much of it's potentially Changed like I'm gonna be old and crotchety by then. Be like we don't care everything's a bust at that point, all right. This one, I think I don't know I, oh okay, like, what do you think about coached coach couch to marathon? I?
Speaker 1:Don't get it. I seriously don't Get to the Ecology of couch to marathon like I can get down with a couch to a 3.15. Mm-hmm, I may not three.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know where I meant. I was trying to get a shout out 5k. You merged them together, got you it had a baby.
Speaker 1:Um, I just I feel like there's so much that can go wrong. There's so many opportunities for overtraining. I I Would say this is a bust unless very certain circumstances are met.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they're getting couches to ultras for the record.
Speaker 1:Why? But I guess that's the question why I think.
Speaker 2:I think it depends a Lot on the individual and maybe the base that they started off with and not everybody kept. Everybody's couch is the same.
Speaker 1:It makes any sense. Summer upholstered summer lap yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that everybody's base of what they consider their couch fitness level is very, very different. And like, if you talk to a runner who says I've been so lazy I've only run 30 miles this past week versus another runner may feel like you know, it'd be amazing for them to do 10 miles that week and both have value and whatever like their point of references. So I think it depends. I feel I don't know that I feel busty or musty with me at all. Those are great adjectives, thank you, even though I feel like they like turned around in terms of their definition. On that I must. You would probably be better in that scenario than musty Gosh. I guess I could see where it's okay. Again, depending on the person's fitness level.
Speaker 2:Now, me personally, I ran an entire year and a half before I was willing to start training for a marathon. Now I felt like about six months into my training when I first started running that I could train for a marathon and I remember thinking like I could totally do this, like these distance the half, because I was training for half. That point, this doesn't feel that bad, I'm sure I can make it happen. And then I was like let's first get through that half and see how I feel. But you now know that I'm a bit more, why I can be kind of like spontaneous about certain things. I'm a bit more methodical and a little bit in that regard too. So I wanted to see how the half belt and how I got through that training cycle.
Speaker 1:You know, I just randomly, you didn't really just sign up for a marathon and then forget that you did like happen, like nowadays.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean definitely a lot of things have changed, and since when I first started I guess it just really depends. Now I was not at that point at a very when I first started, running was not at a very healthy part of my life, I wasn't really doing a lot of physical activity, I really was coming directly from the couch. I think there's others who may have more time on their feet. Maybe they go to the gym more often. They are doing like orange theory and from that case probably they already have a good enough aerobic base to where they can get into that marathon training plan and get get right to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's a great point. I think when I think of a couch to marathon, I'm thinking of none, none running, nothing going on to marathon. And I think that would be my first question is why Like? Why couch to marathon? Because I always feel like with everything there had to be an underlining reason and maybe it's a good reason. Maybe it's a little bit more of a trying to prove something to other people reason Kind of the whole question about when people say they want to do a marathon, why I was going to say I say that regardless, though, like I exactly I think I asked that for athletes regardless of the distance or regardless of the race.
Speaker 2:It's like why are they signing up? I think it's really important, and not just from my perspective as somebody who's coaching them, but as their perspective, so that they know, because when you get up for your fourth training run that week at, let's say, three o'clock in the morning or whatever the case, and you want to just be in bed, you're going to have to dig deep as to why. Why was that signing up for that specific race important for you to keep you moving in your training? So I think that's always a good question anyway.
Speaker 2:So I guess we both feel that that that one sounds like we're just going to have to go with it. It depends, is that?
Speaker 1:would that be fair, or are you cheating?
Speaker 2:But it's our list.
Speaker 1:It's our hot takes. So fight, fight, fight, fight. Well, I'm not going to cheat on the next one?
Speaker 2:I don't think, because, girl, I love this idea of cheaper races with no swag. At this point in my life, I don't need your t-shirts. Keep your t-shirts. Keep your t-shirts, please do your baby Jesus. I do not want them because I'm just going to end up giving them a way to charity or just they're going to like create a mess in my room. I don't want them. I do like some swag, but I would love the option of paying less for no swag, like that would be so spectacular if maybe I could get like $15 off my race and get no swag. And sometimes I don't even want the medal either nowadays.
Speaker 1:Don't get me started on that. That is not on this list and we cannot fight over medals or non-medals. I'm going to pull in deep breath, Shelby.
Speaker 2:OK, so you're saying absolutely, you would not want that as an option.
Speaker 1:I'm not opposed to it being an option for others. Ok, I'm not going to tell you how to live your life, like meal delivery services do, but I I like swag. I'm not a fan of the shirts, but I like other things. I would take a blanket. We've talked about your love for the celebration blanket and I do love it.
Speaker 2:I want one.
Speaker 1:I do love it, Seriously I mean a chotsky or a not plaque. I don't want to plaque, but I don't know. Even even towels like Spacecoast has the towels that I like as a swag.
Speaker 2:So can we change the swag.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can just swag.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe that's what it is. Maybe I'm just over T shirts like I really don't want T shirts. I do love T shirt. I love the Spacecoast towel. It's literally the best towel for summer running and just being able to throw it over your car seats so that you don't get your car seat messy or gross. I love, love, love the celebration blanket. There's something special about knowing that you earned that blanket. So when you're snuggling, or maybe when you are quote unquote feeling a little lazy and like snuggling up that like recovery post long runs, you can feel like, yeah, but look at how awesome I am, I earned this, this blanket. I've heard you get by blankets but I don't know why you would want to and you can just earn it through a race for a second.
Speaker 1:I've said why I'm like what are blind blankets? Like a poly blend?
Speaker 2:And then I realized you said bye, yeah, I need to enunciate Okay. So I guess we feel maybe we did. So I say it's a must to give the option. You're sounding to me like you're a must to have maybe other swag options.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want swag. And again, we are not going to talk about Bruno on here. We're not going to talk about getting rid of metals, because that is one. I don't know if our relationship can survive that tussle.
Speaker 2:So now we're doing it, let's just do it, come on.
Speaker 1:No, you get a metal. If you don't want it, then donate it or something, but you're getting a freaking metal. Do not take the metals away. I want him. I want a participation award.
Speaker 2:Okay, I agree with you and again we've talked about in the past, let's give a shout out again to metals for metal is a wonderful organization. If you guys need to check into them again. If you have a lot of metals you don't particularly love them, you don't really want to keep them, Then metals for metal is your jam. They give those hard earned metals to kids that are facing debilitating illnesses and kind of giving them that that award for showing up and fighting for whatever it is that they're going through. So I love that's a great reminder. So, okay, that's staying on a brunch must, because we do awesome things with it.
Speaker 1:Do not. I will say I have my metals over here. They make me happy, they make me feel like a winner and I need that type of reassurance in my life, to have a metal on my wall.
Speaker 2:Okay, I really I gotta ask you this one, because I feel like you're spicy about so many things. I feel, how do you feel about rocking or running, walking with a weighted vest, which is usually called a wrecking? No, that's not necessarily true. Wrecking is usually when you have your weight in a backpack and then weighted vest are just a weighted vest. You, how do you feel about it? That is a bust.
Speaker 1:Do not run with a weighted vest. Don't even walk with a weighted vest. If you want to hold some hand weights when you're walking, go for it, not while you're running. We got enough going on. You are going to wreck You're literally going to wreck your back. I love wrecking Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2:No, I'm not kidding you. So when I am training for a big hike expedition, I will do a majority of my walks with a, with the pack that I'm wearing actually for the hike, Just train having that on, yeah, and plus you need to. It's almost like trying out your your race clothes for before race day, Like you need to know what what they're called hotspots. What your hotspots are going to be like is the path.
Speaker 1:Listen, my hotspots are my chasing areas.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what it is. You get super taped, it's super chafed, but if you're on a 10, like a 10 hour hike, you need to know what's going to be that chafed area, cause it's going to be super painful. Um, and I think that is probably the longest I've hiked. Maybe it was 10 or 12 hours. So that's.
Speaker 1:That's a little bit different. I'll give you that one.
Speaker 2:I do like weighted vest, and I've done them for CrossFit workouts as well.
Speaker 1:So but would do you recommend them.
Speaker 2:It depends on the athlete and where they're at with their fitness level. I will tell you this, and that's something I think we talked about off mic oh bit ago we're having more compassion for athletes, um, in all shapes and sizes, that there's now a trend with. Personal trainers are being suggested that they use, um, maybe that they use, a weighted vest or carry around the kettlebell when they try to do their workouts, because there's a lot of that personal trainer mentality just get in there and do it, and that may not necessarily be the case for everybody. Physically it can hurt to carry extra weight. So I think there is value to the weighted vest, um, from that perspective, no matter where you're at on your health journey, or it really depends, it really does depend.
Speaker 1:I'm again. This is going to be a big question of why. Um, I've seen people use ankle weights while running and I have a lot of follow up questions and anybody who's coached by me knows I always have a lot of follow up questions Um, but I just yeah, I don't again. I never say never if somebody really wants to do it. But, like again, the hiking makes sense because that's a strategic part of the training.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:To where I think sometimes it's used just for I wanna add weight so I work harder or whatever, and there's not a whole lot of extra consideration behind it. And as somebody who has been a wide range of sizes, shapes and weights when I'm running, I don't know if I would actively add more because it does it can physically hurt. When I first started running I had a lot of extra weight on me and it did. It did change my gait, it changed my form, it changed everything. So to artificially change that, I think that's when it becomes a little bit of that, that gray area of where we go in with this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do agree with that. So if people are doing it just for like they wanna have a bigger calorie burn, that's silly. If they're doing it specifically and actually I've never seen anybody do ankle weights for their runs but I could see it looks painful.
Speaker 2:I could see that when we'd be all the way around a hot mask, because that has to change your running gait. At least with a weighted vest it's distributed in a way where, yes, you're adding more weight to your body but it's distributed in a way where you should, for all intent and purposes, still not rucking Literally weighted vest we're talking about Weighted vest should you still still have a similar form? But I think when you get into rucking and you get into those ankle weights, that would definitely change your form, which could set you up for injury.
Speaker 1:So I love the idea of personal trainers, though doing that because I do think again, you can get very fixated on what's quote, unquote, easy for you and maybe not approach it from a whole body experience.
Speaker 2:I think so too. I think also there's another. Actually it's very cool. It's an empathy tool that they're utilizing for personal trainers as well, where who work with an aging population, and it literally puts you in this entire suit as to duplicating what your hands feel like with arthritis or having muscle spasms that may happen as you get older, and I think it's so fascinating to see personal trainers utilizing these tools to really be able to approach working with their population in a way that has more empathy, because you just don't think of it Like if you've never really experienced having arthritic hands, you're not gonna understand it. Maybe picking up those hand weights is gonna be a little bit more challenging. I love how we just went off a whole different rabbit hole, by the way.
Speaker 1:What about that? Who are?
Speaker 2:we not? Yeah, so anyway, on that one, yeah, I think, from a perspective, if they're just, if folks are doing it just to have a higher caloric burn, then I'm gonna be with you and say that don't do that, because it could just, and I can't see any reason for the ankle to eat whatsoever. To be honest.
Speaker 1:Right. Yeah, it's gonna probably air more on the side of busts for me, but I do love taking a little hand weight when you're walking and really engaging the arms and everything, like a little five pounder, nothing. Don't sit there and break out the 50 pounders and start heaving, hoeing. But okay, this one I'm thinking we're gonna be the same on.
Speaker 2:Okay, I bet you we will be too. Okay, are you ready for it? I think I am, because, yeah, racing buns. Aw, you psyched me out. What were you thinking I thought you were gonna talk about? I thought we were gonna stay on the conversation about weight.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I did a plot twist, I didn't do, and this is not a carb. They're actually basically like a bikini bottom.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, if there were racing buns like actually a carb. Yeah, I think of Texas Roadhouse rolls. That's what I would have imagined.
Speaker 1:Cinnamon buns oh so you know, I don't want the. No, not sweet like that. You don't like cinnamon butter?
Speaker 2:No, it's so delicious Okay so, for the record, for our brunch, must we have to now have racing buns on the menu? As far as the racing bottoms, though the basically, like you said, they look like swimsuit bottoms. I don't care. If you wanna wear them, go for it. I think for me, my comfort zone, my specific, what I prefer to run in, I don't think that I would love them. I see why, if you're faster, you want to minimize all of those constrictions. But then we see Courtney DeWalter breaking world records, like literally. This woman is setting so many different records, of course records, and she doesn't wear anything that's streamlined. She wears baggy shorts and a big t-shirt. So I don't know that racing buns are necessary, necessarily.
Speaker 1:But it's very Well, even like beady douche. I don't know if I said her last name right, but she runs in very conservative wear, knee-like skirts, long sleeves. She's left and right. She's a really prolific runner and doesn't have to wear the racing buns. If you wanna wear them, like you said, go for it, but my thigh is like the chafing that would occur. It's hard for me to even walk on the beach in a bathing suit, let alone run at a high friction rate, like I mean, if I wanna lose half my thigh, that's probably a good way to start, because there's gonna be all that friction and, oh God, can you imagine that post-shower?
Speaker 2:No, that'd be horrible, that would be, but okay. So I guess we feel racing buns are a must if you love them and they're a must if you don't love them. Like, is that what we feel. It's a bust, for me that's a no for me. Dog, I mean personally I don't think anyone's ever gonna see me wearing racing buns, but now eating some racing buns. I am so down with those.
Speaker 1:I had an athlete that went to a local 10K and there were people in racing buns and it kinda threw them off because it was like, okay, I just wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 2:I wonder if they also feel like they had to wear them. Were they feeling uncomfortable? Because I think if you think back to your first racing experiences, you're like what's normal, what's not normal? What am I supposed to be doing here? There's a lot of anxiety about that. I swear to you, for the first big race that I did was here in Orlando. I must have gone inside the Starbucks restroom 5,000 times before going to start lane because I was so anxious about being with what I consider were all the quote unquote runners. So yeah, I could see where. If I would have seen a lot of folks in racing buns, I would have been like, oh my God, did I wear the wrong thing? Did I? Was I supposed to wear that? What am I supposed to do now? Do I need to run in my underwear? So I think I would have a lot of questions, but yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 2:I think I've maybe seen like one or two people at local races and buns but I don't think I've seen anyone on training runs, but I have seen people at races with them.
Speaker 1:Apparently they ain't got none, unless you got buns, hun. But now I really wanna make racing buns buns happen, and I feel like that's gonna be a new recipe of the week. I'm gonna write this down, okay.
Speaker 2:Well, coach, is there anything else that you feel like is a brunch bust or must for you, that comes off the top of your head, that you wanna like put it out there into the world?
Speaker 1:Oh, I have like three, but then I feel like I gotta pick one. Okay, this is an interesting one. Fkts, fastest known times, bust or must.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's almost a bust for me just cause I keep wanting to say FTK. I don't know why and what is an FTK? Because that's always like my brain automatically goes to FTK and I know it's FKT and that always confuses me. I almost think of F that, yeah, that's a good one. Gosh, okay For me. Personally, I don't care. I would never go after an FKT. I really does not motivate me in the slightest. It truly does not For my athletes. If that motivates you, fine. I just don't want it to become a healthy and unhealthy obsession, because I see a lot of folks talking about and it's not necessarily the exact same thing, but it's rather similar, like the Strava segments where you can get your I don't know the fastest for that specific segment. And it just makes me a little anxious when people like are maybe not listening to their body, not listening to their training plan. They're just going out there trying to make sure that they continue being queen of the hill or king of the hill or whatever badge they get on their app.
Speaker 1:Laura Green actually did a really funny reel on Instagram about that, about really rushing around, but like we gotta go to Boston, I just got dethroned. Yeah, the fastest known times. I'm not against them. I don't know if I'd go as far as saying it's a must, because I think it's kind of a fun thing, like I would pick a random dirt road and do it. But I did Google, by the way, what FTK is and if this isn't you and a nutshell, it's a forensic tool, it's a forensic tool kit and it's a computer forensic software.
Speaker 2:That makes so much sense and it scans a hard drive looking for various information.
Speaker 1:So your crime loving heart, yes, totally would be you.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, no wonder. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's definitely okay. So that's so, ftk, totally a must for me. Whatever floats your boat, as long as you're not making it an unhealthy obsession. But you know, with all of these things, I think that's what we're talking about. It's like make sure that, at the end of the day, whatever is your must is something that it's like driven from you and isn't necessarily where you're allowing yourself to go down. A rabbit hole of just things can border pretty quickly. Even healthy things can become unhealthy if you become obsessed with them.
Speaker 1:I mean listen, if we really pull off that racing bun recipe, that could be one of them.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, what may be a little bit of an unhealthy obsession for me is caffeine, and I don't know that I'm willing yet to say that I'm ready to admit that I officially have a problem and that I should work on it. So let's talk about caffeinated gels. And then I'm curious do you feel like caffeinated gels are the same thing as pre-workout or do you feel like they're different?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I'm gonna say they're different, mm-hmm. And I am going to say for me it's a bust. I don't love caffeinated gels and this is my personal. I would rather have a cup of coffee, I would rather do that type of caffeine versus the caffeinated gels, probably because I have a super sensitive GI you know, area situation going on and I have to have my coffee free so I don't have a caffeine fecal incident, if you will, on the run, okay, um, so for me it's a bust. I'm not going with it and pre-workout, I just I don't get them. I get them, but I don't get them.
Speaker 2:I think if you don't have digestive issues and you want to have digestive issues because maybe you're jealous of Coach Shelby talking about it all the time, you're like I wonder what that's like Then maybe you should introduce pre-workout and ensure life more often, because by the end of I don't know the tub of pre-workout you're going to understand what digestive issues are all about. They have. So I am not going to be that person. By the way, like all, food has chemicals, right. Like it just does. It's a molecular biology of food. It's going to have chemicals.
Speaker 2:So I'm not necessarily anti-chemicals. I'm anti the mixture of things that go into pre-workout and I absolutely hate the niacin pre-workouts that make people feel flushed. And I get the purpose of that from a weightlifting standpoint. Not that it makes any actual real sense in terms of like what it does for your actual workout, but I get why people like that flush because it kind of creates a little bit of the pump. But for running, especially in summer, dear baby Jesus, please do not be using pre-workout with niacin and going out for these runs, because that's just a recipe for disaster. But caffeinated gels I kind of like. I like a little bit of a caffeine boost in the middle of a long run and I actually have stopped for espresso in the middle of a long run.
Speaker 1:That does not surprise me at all. And if you want the flush feeling, just I mean, have anxiety, it really does wonders for the system.
Speaker 2:Just right, or or I can't just come down to Florida because it's a flush season all day long.
Speaker 1:There's no doubt on that Now I have to laugh, though we're going to go off the rails Shocker. But you said you'll stop for an espresso mid run. One, I'm envious of your gut. But two, have you actually seen the olive oil coffee at Starbucks?
Speaker 2:I've heard really bad things about it, but I've seen it, but I have not ordered it.
Speaker 1:I would not get that in the middle of your run, because I actually looked it up, because I was really intrigued and, like the first five things on, it said be near a bathroom after you drink it.
Speaker 2:What's the purpose of it? Is it like? Are people utilizing it like they use that bullet coffee back in the day, where it was that grass-fed butter and they were using that instead of cream? I mean, what's the purpose of having olive oil coffee? I'm just curious.
Speaker 1:I don't know, let's Google it, shall we? Well, I'm going to tell you we should be sponsored by Google.
Speaker 2:Really, I don't first see myself utilizing bullet coffee or olive oil coffee anytime soon. I love butter and I love olive oil and I love coffee. I think I need them all together in one little cup. Yeah, I think I'm good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it doesn't really seem like it's touted and stay full or longer. I guess it's in Italy, um, and it's a thing.
Speaker 2:Well, I guess what I'm reading is that it has to do with helping to reduce the acidity of coffee, and coffee can be super highly acidic. I prefer a lighter roast bean and, if that's going to be something that I'm really concerned about, to get a little bit of a milder taste like a blonde espresso.
Speaker 1:But I mean, we've talked about what we do and don't add to coffee, so again, not where we originally started, but off our little detour path. Does anybody do the olive oil coffee? Do they like it? I mean, how much stock have you bought in toilet paper companies I did? The inquiring minds need to know.
Speaker 2:They still have toilet paper leftover from the twenty, twenty like grab. And so they decided, sure, I'll use them up with olive oil coffee, I guess.
Speaker 1:I'm still saying toilet paper companies are missing their mark with not sponsoring races.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would. I wholeheartedly agree with that. Or, who knows, maybe sponsoring us. But anyway, I would look forward to trying the racing bun recipe that you're going to throw out into the world before I'd be into the olive oil coffee. But you do know me Like I will probably. If you're a stranger and you have it at your aid station, I'll probably try it.
Speaker 1:Maybe on the racing buns buns I'll use some olive oil and then everybody will be happy.
Speaker 2:I will. I do want to talk about this one, just because we recently had a world record holder because of getting you shooting your shot and in an Olympian hopeful with Neely on our on our brunch a couple of weekends ago, I think, at this point. So tell me more about how do you feel about pursuing world records over Olympic medals, like, I guess, is this more of a this or that, or do you feel like they both have merit?
Speaker 1:I would like to see more elites actually go towards the world record. I think it's really good for the sport. I love the Olympics, I understand the history behind it and everything, but I do think it puts a lot of emphasis on something that's once every four years. Yeah, I don't love that. Contracts in the elite world are so heavily tied with it. Yeah, I think the Olympics now create a lot of mental health struggles for the athletes and, in a way, the luster and what the Olympics could be is not as much. So I think world records are a fun alternative because you can be a great athlete and have a really bad day and not make it to the Olympics, and that doesn't mean that all four years should be for not to wear. To wear if you go for a world record, it's not, I would say, easier, but I think it's a different type of gamble, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2:You know what I feel about that, though, is the minute that we hear sponsorship and contracts come after. Those world records is going to become just as unhealthy as the Olympics to be.
Speaker 1:And probably it. I feel like it's kind of like the race transferring, the bib transferring there is not really a great solution, so it's kind of the lesser of all the evils at the moment. So I can see that and I can appreciate that.
Speaker 2:I love it and it makes me happy, like I think it's so much fun. It feels to me like this is an individual, like what we discovered with Neely, that they prize having an extra sense of whimsy and fun with how they approach their running and their training. But I do have. I do think of that as like as soon as we get sponsorship dollars behind it, which will happen, because, of course, as soon as sponsors see that they can get a lot of notoriety behind supporting or sponsoring world record holders, I truly do believe it We'll see a little bit of unhealthiness with that as well. With that said, I think it's beautiful, I love. I mean, who doesn't love the Olympics, right, and who doesn't love this extra bit of fun of seeing sportsmanship at its best? There's no doubt on that. But I do think that it's maybe not quite so must filled for me. I was going to say musty again.
Speaker 2:I would say it's not musty, it's a little bit more busty, yeah, so I guess we'll have to see, but I do think that there is a lot of fun. I'm curious if folks I also think world records can be fun and that's the most important part of it and we always come back to that at the end of the day, because I think that that's really what it's all about trying to add levity to our everyday lives, regardless if we're an elite or just someone like us going out for running and enjoying it, our recreational running cells. Yeah, now we have tackled some things. I think I think it's official. We're still friends. Would you say that to be true?
Speaker 1:Yes, I still. I still think you're busty and musty all at the same time.
Speaker 2:I don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 1:We may not be friends after that, don't worry, I'll give you some racing buns and you'll be fine.
Speaker 2:But even though I got a little spicy here, I know you're also going to bring a little of spiciness to the recipes this week, so you want to tell me a little bit more about your recipe this week.
Speaker 1:Yes, this is a coach Shelby original. I'm going to be doing a spicy margarita mack tail.
Speaker 2:I am so loving that you're bringing mack tail is more heavily for to the to the forefront here, because we are hearing so very much how it is. Your generation and younger are definitely gravitating more towards mack tails or even seeing like Disney is having to really change the way that they do things or having to serve more of the millennials and making sure that they have more mack tails options. So thank you for adding that. Now I'm older, so I'm going to go for booze and I'm going to have.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to have a margarita, but I do love a dark and stormy, also a little spicy. I love, love, love spicy ginger beer which is not alcoholic, but I just love the aspect. I even drink that just plain and I like the extra spicy ones. Personally, they've been like researched, like what's the spiciest ones. I'm going to tend to go for those, but I do love the dark and stormy. For this time of year, since it is a little hot, it feels like a really refreshing, cool, very easy drink to make.
Speaker 1:I like how in my notes I specifically put lots of ice and then I immediately think of the ice bath. I'm like, just don't pour it on Christine which is funny.
Speaker 2:Yes, maybe that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1:I like ice in my drinks, not like actually for me to bathe in, so that's so we're not going to be doing a time for brunch like snowball fight or anything like that. I guess.
Speaker 2:Only time will truly tell my friends. But for now, we're just going to keep it spicy, we're going to keep it hot and we're going to keep it moving. But, friends, we want you to give yourself a really big high five for this long brunch. We hope that you had a healthy debate in that you decided if you're a on what side of your felt more brunch, must or bust. Either way, we want to hear from you. So please do use that graphic that was in the newsletter, because I really want I really want to know what people stand on all these things.
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